Michal Kaščák: I do not miss anything because it looks very funny now but was not so funny that time
On 18th November we had the high school prom, so on 17th November we devoted to preparing the program. Next day we learnt that something had happened so we did “strike committee” at school. Me and my friends went to the factories to toss down communist slogans, red stars, sickles… It was amazing adventure for us and it was beautiful. The square in Trencin quickly revived. With friends we went there on work siding, and we were very happy that it all changes and collapses. First, we did not believe that it succeeds, but then we already did. Did you also have a little fear that if this fails, what are the consequences of it? Specifically at that time we did not. I think that many people went on the way "do-or-die". If it failed, at least we know that we have done everything possible to do so. But I think people who were in Bratislava in the center of activities - such as Tóno Popovič, Zuzana Mistríková, Fedor Gál, Budaj, Zajac, Snopko and others - they risked a lot. I think that all fundamental has changed, which in November 1989 people wanted, or what I wanted. Political regime transformed and created democratic institutions, the State was to face the law, it has all the attributes that could be the rule of law. The arts and education were liberated, a lot of other things. I think that it met all the objectives that November 1989 had. Now the question is just how people are meeting the objectives and use them. Which curiosities of the last regime - which was typical for you and my generation do not remember now - miss you the most? I do not miss anything because it looks very funny now but was not so funny that time. I remember life before the 1989, I like the fact it is entertain, we can laugh at it and I find it as absurd movie... But it was terrible at that time. No. In the shops there was no foreign music (from the West), just socialist authors were available and a few chosen ones, for example Best of Doors, which I do not know why exactly this ones... But really, in the stores you could not get foreign music, except those from the socialist bloc. So I think that nothing was better than today. So those were relatively certainties… Yes, those were very relatively certainties. But I do not say by this that people who got an apartment, car or who could buy anything that they automatically cooperated with the regime or let itself to be corrupt… But the system had set it very unfortunate. Text: Miroslava Klempová
How did you experience the 17th day of November 1989?
Today we often hear - many people say - that we knew that the regime was going to fall, that the regime was doomed and that it was just clear. But I heard such beautiful words reply - why those people did not tell it before? Why these people did not talk in the spring of 1989, for example? Now, 20 years after, we all know to be wise, but nobody talked before. And indeed the regime appeared to be invincible and concreting, it wielded any power tools, police, army, national security, people's militia. Regime wielded the education, culture, basically everything. So I do not know why the regime should nullify itself previously. We should appreciate the courage of those who started it all and who went to it when it was really 'either or'.
You had specific expectations of what should be changed after revolution. What has really changed for those 2O years - and it is fine and will be developed- and what has not? / What has not come up to expectations yet?
Unfortunately, I was dissatisfied with how people choose those who will represent us, I am sorry for the increase of ethnic tension, apathy of people... But now it already depends on people, it is no longer the problem of regime, it is the issue of specific people. And I believe it will start up again in people, because I do not believe that they want to live in a country of intolerance…
I remember one story. We played a concert in the “Čertovo kolo” (one-day music festival named “The round of Devil”) with new repertoire, which we had not disagreed. But for the next concert we got the same repertoire (songs respectively) completely prohibited and between those songs was also one called "Anča kráča, auto fičí” (translated “Anna walks, car rides”). It was a song from the primer. We laughed at the fact that it was actually banned poems which know all new-boys in schools, so they were all dissidents. It was obvious that these people were often not thinking, they prohibited things ab antecedente they even read it.
And as we talk about the life of music… each band had to play before the Commission to approve, whether they can perform. Each band had to have “the founder” as a man who stamped/approved every single concert. The Commission determined royalties for bands before each concert, the songs used to be sent for approval, whether the band can play their texts. Each concert had to be a reporting course and sent by the founder of the band to the Committee. The bands could not record or spread their recordings, they were unable to concerts (and even less abroad) or received in the media, because there was just one publisher, who decided what to record. And the whole process was very complicated...
So nostalgic mention of anything…?
I know, today is modern to claim that we had better social security, but a great paradox is that if we had it, then why the system did not shed its citizens anywhere and they had been fencing? If people here feel confident and comfort and securely, I have no idea why they had to be caged. I do not know why people were shot at the border when they wanted to leave this country. Certainly I do not know it. So something quite not fit here.
I think that regime subverted its own citizens by creating waiting lists for apartments, where it preferred those who were loyal. The state kept its people in fear and tension, in obedience to not lose their flat or car, to not be removed from the queue…
And once again I repeat what I said before - if people feel social good, they would not go away, there should not be reason to depart from here, people would not be fencing and they could travel…
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